Charles Robert, the 3-month-old son she had with Gary Gabard, died of sudden infant death syndrome; Patricia found him blue in his crib. What the prosecution failed to disclose to Rorrers defence team was that the cops, in their zeal to prove their gun theory, visited several addresses of which Rorrer was resident, dug up the gardens in which she was known to do target practice recovered several shell casings and bullets (more than 70), had them ballistically tested, but NOT ONE was found to be a match to the bullet recovered from the victim. Or did they? Andrew Buchan was uncannily good at playing Matt Hancock in Covid drama A man normally wouldnt care about killing a child, but a woman normally would have some kind of abhorrence to harming an innocent child. Veronica Katrinak Obituary - Death Notice and Service Information Plus, he had only a minimal life insurance policy on Joann and he passed polygraphs, according to The FBI Files: Family Secrets. Oh wait, sorry, you werent there. Dont know from where youve got your information about this case my guess is youve been watching a lot of those documentaries which revel in showing the case in a disgracefully biased manner. Your comment will be posted to MailOnline as usual. Have you watched any of the documentaries Ive mentioned? Patricia Rorrer: An Update - Forensic Files Now No activity on her bank account or credit cards took place after the day she went missing, so investigators dismissed the theory that she took her child and bolted. Justice is about uncovering the truth. (A good point. Authorities said the 3-month-old died either of suffocation or of exposure while lying on his mother's stomach. In fact it clearly shows how short you are on all the details surrounding this case. Meanwhile, the case of the missing mother and baby turned into colossal news across the U.S. and internationally. Ex-boyfriend Walter Blalock said that Patricia wanted him to be more like Andrew. Find lehighvalleylive.com on Facebook. It says that Andrew reported the cut phone lines and broken pad lock was reported to the police at 10:30. Court records show she is incarcerated in the Lehigh County Jail. It might have said no root but could have been wrong. They portray heavily slanted and biased shows. Andrew Tate moans 'they won't let me leave' in prison rant after 'lung I happen to be one of those deluded people youre so freely attempting to insult. Phone records dont lie.) DA readily agreed they did not belong to Rorrer, was happy to admit they were never submitted for analysis. . RR, Watch the Forensic Files episode on YouTube. Patricia Rorrer is as guilty as sin, and she needs to stay right where shes at. If you want to help her let her find peace by admitting her wrong and asking God for forgiveness. And NOBODY saw her at all? Im quite happy to accept that ANYONE who makes a TV documentary makes it for money. I would have liked better her being put to death! Ironically its you who is basing your view on second-hand information, as you were not in court. Susan Wright is out of prison after killing her husband in TX. Check Background Get Contact Info This Is Me - Edit Reputation & Background Suzanne Pearson fabricated quotes from Patricia including her claim that Patricia said, Im going to the electric chair upon her arrest because a conviction would boost Pearsons career. 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I believe this woman murdered Joann and Alex. Well of course it is, so you overstated your opinion as though you know it to be fact, thus the jury and others were wrong; ironic because youre quick to complain that others are much to sure of *their* opinion shes guilty. She and Andrew Katrinak shared a house in Salisbury Township in the mid-1980s, when he was a self-employed contractor and she was a real-estate agent. The fat cow is guilty as hell and I hope she continues to have the shit kicked out of her in prison every day of her useless life. The FBI even included a written report to that effect. After her arraignment, she had to walk past a crowd of dozens of locals screeching hang her! and baby killer! Patricia clung to a Polaroid picture showing her and her own little girl. Neighbors saw police cars in her driveway and acquaintances heard rumors about her previous boyfriends.The intrigue peaked Tuesday at 5:50 a.m., when deputies and Pennsylvania State Police surprised and arrested Rorrer, 33, at home. And I can back up that claim by the fact I have read, watched and listened to all there is to know about this case. Go watch the Reasonable Doubt episode from last night Patricia did it. Well, at least you managed some sense there when you say that, especially when you take into account the amount of evidence and witnesses which were withheld from the Defence and what appears to be a clear case of evidence-tampering. Katrinak, Andrew J.Andrew Joseph Katrinak, 88, of Bethlehem, died on Wednesday, January 21, 2015 at Blough Healthcare Center in Bethlehem. The 36-year-old former kickboxer and his brother have been imprisoned in Romania since late December on suspected rape and human trafficking offences. Some friends and neighbors find that hard to believe. Dial-a-problem. I most definitely will not personally afford Patricia a platform, Michael said in an email to ForensicFilesNow.com She had her chance to answer my questions and tell her story in court over 20 years ago. Andrew Tate's leaked 'medical record' suggests influencer has suspected Rorrer killed these two people in cold blood and the jury got it right! It was just assumed to be crib death. Kurt Bresswein may be reached at kbresswein@lehighvalleylive.com. We will automatically post your comment and a link to the news story to your Facebook timeline at the same time it is posted on MailOnline. Book her. Animals would have for sure. Officers responded just after 5 a.m. Wednesday to an area near the intersection of Martin Luther King Drive and Carolyn Coleman Way and found , "The Wall Street Journal just so happened to have a supportive op-ed ready to publish within hours of the meeting. Name. Andrew Tate and his brother detained by Romanian Police. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Hege described Rorrer as savvy and street-smart and similar to other horse lovers he knows. Whatever the truth is. Hardly an argument, more a figment of your overconfidence in your opinion. One of the hairs had magically developed root material to enable that. Shame on your for defending a vicious killer. It was Mr Tates third appeal against his detention since his arrest. Red-faced and crying, the tall woman wore an orange-and-white prison jumpsuit, flip-flops and ankle chains. First it was winter, cold temperatures preserve bodies for significantly longer periods. And for you to even ask why documentaries are biased, makes me wonder if you have the ability to determine fact from fiction! John If you feel it so necessary to post a comment, please at least try to keep it original, because theres nothing sensible with your juvenile attempt using my words. His hair (back in 94-95) was dirty blonde and roughly 8 inches long. A lot of these documentaries feature most of the theories suggested by the cops and prosecution which were most damaging to her case, but not a single person to substantiate Rorrers side, or to challenge their versions. How do you know this woman wasnt obsessed with him and wanted his wife out of the way? According to Pennsylvania State Police, Rorrer met Andrew Katrinak, the husband and father of the victims, in 1986. His wife's vehicle was discovered in a parking lot 100 yards away from their house. which makes a complete nonsense of their gun theory. Youre so fixated with her guilt, youre unable to see other factors that show this case to be a disgraceful travesty. They noted houses near the murder scene would have heard a gunshot in December, when no farm equipment is making noise, and question why the murderer didnt just kill Joann inside her house instead of risking being seen in public in her car. Patricia and her husband broke up after the babys death. He was born in Bethlehem son of the late Martin. I mean the husband did do some shady things maybe he was involved? It seems so, according to you. Over the years, she has been charged with breaking and entering, intoxication, cruelty to animals and larceny in Davidson, Randolph, Gaston, Anson and Forsyth counties, said Detective Lt. Tony Roberson of the Davidson County Sheriff's Department. 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Joann would have fought for her life the person that did this would have had marks on them from a fight! It fails to mention the car was totally clean of any other forensic residue. The number of delusional people in this world both shocks and frightens me. Remember, killers have the advantage over investigators. Ten months after Joann died he murdered another woman (who looks just like her) and her baby, as well. Lived In Drake CO . Join thought-provoking conversations, follow other Independent readers and see their replies, Copyright 2023 The Associated Press. There are those on this very site who express their disappointment she was not executed. I saw lots of her defenders saying that he got the hairs from a hairbrush of hers that he had somehow saved, which I thought was absolutely ridiculous. Theres also the matter of a woman who suddenly remembered she saw Joann with another man at a Food Mart store five days after the disappearance. Theres a similar air of confusion connected to the Scott Peterson debacle. The article also notes that most inmates earn around 19 cent an hour at their jobs and must pay $5 each time they need medical attention or medicine. Rorrer, formerly of the Phillipsburg and High Bridge areas, was living in Linwood, North Carolina,. After a very early failed marriage, the 24-year-old Joann scored a new husband in Andrew Katrinak, 38, whom she met at a club. Im a hunter and in the spring I have found many dead deer that died from starvation or other reasons and the bodies are untouched. Joanne wouldnt have fought back as she was shot therefore almost immediately incapacitating her and was holding her son. Ill always say that Tommy Lynn Sells murdered the Routier boys OR the father Darrin did it. However, my curiosity is piqued as to why Andrews mother didnt report the missing daughter in law, Joanne and her own grandson Alex! I just watched Reasonable Dont on this case. How could I explain to my daughter years later that I took a plea for something I didnt do? she said. Rorrer's ex-boyfriend, Andrew Katrinak, was the husband of Joann Katrinak and Alex's father. Anyway, there are thousands of people who differ from that belief, that is why there is so much controversy surrounding this case, and that is why there have been numerous convicted people in the past whove been exonerated on appeal. Neely's motion on Rorrer's behalf argues that new information from the lab reports show the samples had no roots, while the testing that identified the strands as Rorrer's showed they had roots, The Morning Call reports. At 4 a.m. Wednesday morning, several dozen of Rorrer's relatives and friends surrounded the courthouse, said Capt. Its an opinion learnt from a well-researched book, from documentaries which show and mention a great deal of facts and evidence which was never brought up at her trial. Pfeiffer and Burke claimed that police Sgt. Stop trying to prove that everyone who is prosecuted is rightfully prosecuted. All Rights Reserved. She had a history of violence over men, and she had access to the dump site from frequent visits. I finally had to stop reading this stupid article. They also think she killed her first hubby Larry Ford as well. Which explains why she made Joann kill the baby, or suffer from the environmental elements. Andy passed not one but two polygraph tests and had a solid alibi. He said she did own a firearm, with its serial numbers filed off. Hoist by your own petard. Another former boyfriend said she talked about Andrew frequently and liked to gaze at old photos of him. Out of the two hairs found in the car only one had enough root to perform a DNA match which did match but police waited to arrest Patricia until a highly advanced and accurate match could be made, which took a year. This weekDuke of York said he does not want to leave his mansion in the grounds of Windsor Castle despite telling friends he fears he will be unable to afford its upkeep if the King cuts his 250,000-a-year grant. (Media sources vary as to whether she actually worked at the stable or just rented a stall there for her own horse.). Why would it be an irony for a person to express his opinion? When Joann Katrinak and the baby didn't show up for a planned afternoon of Christmas shopping on Dec. 15, Katrinak called the police. They retested the hair for DNA evidence with updated technology definitely Patricias hair case closed. ``This woman was a possible double murderer, so we had to protect the people out there,' Hege said. Media galore. Patty is my cousin. That woman has no soul. That phone call came in on December 7, 1994. On closer inspection, he saw it was the body of a woman. Rorrer waived her extradition rights late Tuesday afternoon. Davidson County Sheriff's deputies helped with interviews, gathering evidence and checking alibis. No way they laid there for 4 months!!!! . They were able to match 5 hairs all the same micro DNA which happened to match the DNA pulled from blood samples Pat gave. They did this case on Reasonable Doubt last night. On Instagram, I found a post for a two-part Win at All Costs podcast featuring journalism professor Bill Mousheys interviews with Patricia Rorrer from prison in December 2019. Just one example. Thank you, this is a very interesting comment. Now retired, he declined ForensicFilesNow.coms invitation to spar directly with Patricia via a podcast. so then using your contention, one who is deeply religious and sees God as being a factual figure is wrong? There is a term in law called balance of probabilities, which basically means that guilt is assigned when there is a preponderance of evidence that would lead a rational person to conclude that the person did it. Theodore Kohuth, the baby on top of the dead mother. Facebook gives people the power. And even prosecutor Michael McIntyre, who wrote the book Hair Trigger about the case, acknowledged to Keith Morrison that it was a little odd that the police found blood on the hairs in Joanns car but nowhere else in the vehicle. It was Patricias hair no question. Look into it. If you look at the crime scene picture, only parts of the mother seem preserved. But hang on You ask that I show care with my wording and show all the tolerance in the world, and by that you presumably mean I should simply ignore those who villify her in the most disgraceful way, probably in the opinion that all readers of their comments will agree, and no one is going to take offence! This is the most ridiculous take ever! When she stood trial that same year, she maintained her innocence and alleged that she and Andrew Katrinak had continued to stay in touch as good friends, so she wouldn't do anything to hurt him. That poor child who grew up with no mom for absolutely no reason. Cop defends accused. For this week, I looked into the defenders reasoning as well as Patricias whereabouts today. It could be coincidence, but I really doubt it. Curiously after this latest test, the 39 hairs removed only 34 were accounted for what became of the absent 4 hairs? Ive heard she gets to go out to LUNCH and this broad is in prison for murdering her husband Russ Stager? You started slinging insults, then got insulted when slung back. which makes a complete nonsense of their gun theory.. Patricias defenders also say Andrew Katrinak staged the scene at his house by prying the door and cutting the phone line. WoW! She made an effort to look perfectly groomed even when she took out the trash, according to her mother, who appeared on Forensic Files. I fail to see exactly why someone cant have an opinion which he/she sees as fact. Previous to Teresa's current city of Loveland, CO, Teresa Katrinak lived in Estes Park CO. Presumably if they thought the evidence was against the states case, thats how theyd present as theres no obvious reason for them to be biased one way or the other. He lived in 1910, at address, Connecticut. . Patricia had a violent past and was absolutely positively the killer. This woman killed and is where she belongs! He took two tests and there was deception detected in BOTH. You, however, consider your ill-informed opinion superior to them not only that, you then go to great lengths to belittle them. A woman convicted in the 1994 murders of a Catasauquawoman and the victim's 3-month-old son was back in court on Tuesday. Mal told Keith Morrison that Patricias dance teacher originally confirmed her alibi that she was in class on the day of the murder, then changed his mind. For more information governing use of our site, please review our Terms of Service. At 17, Patricia dropped out of high school and married landscaper Gary Gabard. The Innocence Project has declined to take her case. ): They boast glorious ocean views, but swathes of homes along America's coastlines are at risk of tumbling off CLIFFS due to erosion, rising sea levels and extreme weather events, Are YOU guilty of these gym sins? After an hour Id call anyone whod listen to me including police! All rights reserved. She should have been treated exactly the way she treated that mother and baby, taken out into the woods, shot, beaten and then left to die. And Patricia wasnt all edges. She never had anyone testify against her but an ex-boyfriend! Catherine are you sure your names not Karen? In TV clips, Andrew didnt come off as anguished. Perhaps that would lessen your fright. Its nine minutes into the video. The material on this site may not be reproduced, distributed, transmitted, cached or otherwise used, except with the prior written permission of Advance Local. But otherwise, extremely similar, a single bullet fired into the head, the woman later beaten to make sure she died, the hair, which had remained in the bracelet of our victim in this case, the way it was executed outside the house in a wooded area, at the command of the gentleman who did not want to soil his house, and the child who in our case was abandoned in the car. THESE COPS ARE WRONG AND THEY ALL SHOULD BE IN JAIL FOR WHAT THEY DID TO PATRICA, PUTTING HER AWAY FOR LIFE FOR SOMETHING SHE DID NOT DO. Lie detectors are pseudo science. Joanne and Alex didnt disappear until 12/15. The fact that her jeans were unbuttoned and unzipped. Published: 20:58 EST, 3 March 2023 | Updated: 21:02 EST, 3 March 2023. She made Joanne kill the baby PLEASE. But unfortunately other than God only two people know exactly what really happened and one is not alive. Am I missing something? "His wish is to attend a prearranged consultation in Dubai . The media love the femme fatale., FBI lab blunder. It would appear you are reading all sorts of interpretations into my comments especially that I have a fragile ego, dented by others whove responded to me! Patricia also pointed out that when author Tammy Mal started her research and speaking to me, she was not an advocate at all but she reversed and ended up advocating for Patricias innocence. They added that doctors in Romania and Dubai wrote medical documents which confirmed he has a lesion on his upper right lung, which could be a sign a tumour has developed. ), And in another bombshell, Joanns good friend Karen Devine said Joann planned to leave Andrew after the holidays. Tate has a dark spot on his lung, most likely a tumour, a spokesperson told Mail Online. Killers can plan all the details and alibis well ahead of the murder while cops must come up with hard evidence, even just to make an arrest. But the bodies weren't found until April, when a farmer glimpsed a blue baby blanket in a forest 15 miles from Catasauqua. That, as well as measurements of the babys head (revealing the infant to be of a more advanced age) very much suggest they were killed some considerable time after what was believed at her trial. There was a blood-stained fingernail and hair found on the victims body, and even though (in Keith Morrisons Dateline documentary) the Asst. This is all BS.She did it. You say by definition! The two kept in touch by telephone, and in 1991, Rorrer briefly sought refuge at Katrinak's home in Catasauqua after being assaulted by another boyfriend. ``I told her I would see that her horses was tended to.'. I have not SEEN this report that says no root found is there a picture of it online somewhere? She will be taken to Pennsylvania today to face trial. Rorrer is as guilty as OJ Simpson. She said that shes no fan of Forensic Files and that the show had many misrepresentations about her case and that shed heard ForensicFilesNow.com mixed up some facts as well. There is pendency of DNA investigation for Routier. They theorize that Andrew Katrinak framed Patricia and that the hostile phone call between Patricia and Joann actually took place not on Dec. 12 as Andrew said but rather on Dec. 7. (Disclaimer: Im not a big fan of eyewitnesses who come forward years after the fact, but its possible). The Duke of York appeared cheerful when . Most of all, Patricia said, she would like a rematch with prosecutor Michael McIntyre. She just stayed in touch with everybody, Kathy Barber said in her interview on NBCs Murder in Lehigh Valley: Keith Morrison Reports in 2017. All this talk about hairs and other DNA just seems to keep deflecting away from the gun itself. Your details from Facebook will be used to provide you with tailored content, marketing and ads in line with our Privacy Policy. Why would she say that maybe she wasnt really a good friend, just someone trying to inject herself into a super sensational case. In recent weeks, the King has reportedly asked all members of the royal family to tighten their belts and to expect less money from the Duchy now owned by Charles than in the past. Teresa Jean Katrinak, 56 - Loveland, CO - Has Court or Arrest Records But I agree with a recent comment.. Why not do a paternity case so just that is done and out of the way. Another inaccuracy in this is, they state the jury took SIX HOURS to return a verdict, when in fact it took less than TWO HOURS. After a very early failed marriage, the 24-year-old Joann scored a new husband in Andrew Katrinak, 38, whom she met at a club. Andrew Katrinak in Colorado. Microconidia DNA, as long as the strand is one inch long they can pull the DNA from that. Incriminating words. Keep her murdering ass locked up!!! Discover address history, phone, age and more. SHE IS NOT GUILTY OF THESE CRIMES. Andrew Tate 's legal team has claimed he has a tumour as the detained influencer faces another month in a Romanian prison. Andrew mentioned to police that his former live-in girlfriend Patricia Rorrer once managed a horse stable two miles from the bodies location and would have been familiar with the riding trails close to the murder scene. 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How do you explain her not telling the truth to the authorities about the gun and its flaw of only able to shoot once and then jamming up. Beautifully said Cliff! Looking at the pictures of the scene, after 4 months of the bodies being there allegedly, they were untouched? Puny policy. All my comments have been vetted and approved by this sites organisers so how do you see yourself as the judge of whats acceptable or not? Another glaring omission is Early in the investigation, the police in their zeal to add some substance to their fanciful theory about the gun used in the crime, did a thorough search of Rorrers back yard/garden (where they did target practice) looking for spent shells and bullets, in order to do a forensic comparison with the bullet recovered from the victim. Saphira Wolf forgive me, but I dont have the time, or wish, to respond to idiotic comments. They added that the King is in disagreement with his brother and 'has told him straight, there is no chance of that happening'. The evidence was all there. Theyre more than happy to exaggerate and speculate the details of the crime, which serves to attract more viewers who (like you) seem to be happy to believe it all. This response of yours neatly sums up your dogmatic view of her guilt despite so much evidence to the contrary. You, however seem to have no problem with these hurtful and damaging comments aimed at Rorrer. There was also forensic evidence, obviously planted by them crooked cops, according to defenders. Andrew Katrinak is never more than a foot away from his telephone. One insider said: 'Andrew is insisting on having a job despite being made to stand down from his duties and now he's being kicked out of his home,' according to The Mirror. Some two years into the investigation of Rorrer, a court order was obtained to remove hair specimens from her.
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